Floor Burn Tournament: Finals

September 1, 2008

And then there were two.

After a month long battle to crown the Floor Burn Champion, the final contestants are Jason Maxiell and Shane Battier. Despite complaints from some readers about these players being heralded on message board across the ‘net, I have no qualms with these two finalists because they are a great representation of what the Floor Burn Tournament represents: two players who don’t get the shine they deserve for being glue guys and integral parts of their respective teams success.

Voting starts today and will end Saturday at 12 am. Make sure you vote early so you don’t lose your chance to have your voice heard.

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149 Comments on “Floor Burn Tournament: Finals”.

  • PistonsFan

    You already know…

    September 1, 2008 » 5:02 AM »

  • Dominic

    Well it’s 118 to 7 for Maxiell now. Does Battier want to throw in the towel already?

    September 1, 2008 » 11:26 AM »

  • I don’t think I’ve seen a picture of my boy J-Max yet. Last time, it was Lee and we kicked his behind. Why don’t they show the champ? We already know who it is.
    Shout out to Need4Sheed.com

    September 1, 2008 » 11:34 AM »

  • Pistonsrock

    Maxiell is winning, hands down!

    September 1, 2008 » 11:47 AM »

  • [...] Originally Posted by Darth Tater Max is doing great. Keep those votes coming in. Vote from work AND home if you can… FINALS time Hoops Addict ? Blog Archive ? Floor Burn Tournament: Finals [...]

    September 1, 2008 » 12:22 PM »

  • Well, it’s time for ‘The Putback King’ to take his rightful place in the last slot of this tournament. It’s been a nice run, but let’s give J-Max his shine.

    September 1, 2008 » 1:20 PM »

  • Rashad Mobley

    The votes clearly reflect a Battier backlash….

    September 1, 2008 » 2:04 PM »

  • Dominic

    Battier? Where is you? Ahaha

    September 1, 2008 » 2:24 PM »

  • Matt

    Go J-Max! Go Detroit!

    September 1, 2008 » 3:09 PM »

  • I’m a Bulls fan, and a Pistons hater, but I gotta give this one to JMax.

    September 1, 2008 » 4:11 PM »

  • BCharters

    Well in the picture with Battier it looks like he really enjoys looking up T-Mac shorts…..

    September 1, 2008 » 4:36 PM »

  • Rob G

    Shane’s alright, but my boy Max is gonna own this tourney!

    September 1, 2008 » 6:14 PM »

  • Where all the Rockets fans?

    September 2, 2008 » 12:19 AM »

  • Rashad Mobley said:
    The votes clearly reflect a Battier backlash….

    The votes clearly reflect Pistons blog’s being on top of things… where’s all the Rockets bloggers

    September 2, 2008 » 8:11 AM »

  • Jared

    Can I just vote for James Posey in a write in?

    /late to this

    September 2, 2008 » 8:48 AM »

  • Pistons blog or not, NBA fans know who the Crown belongs to. Maxiell had this one before it began, just ask the many that have come in his way….remember Tyson Chandler? I know he does but I’m sure he would love to forget.

    http://www.need4sheed.com/videos/march_16_08_maxiell.html

    September 2, 2008 » 9:18 AM »

  • Pistons fans need to get a life…

    everyone knows Shane > Maxiell.

    September 2, 2008 » 9:43 AM »

  • Slim

    Give it to Pistons fans for showing up in the masses. They have clearly beat us Rockets fans. But the fact is that this is just a popularity contest. Any NBA GM or Coach would take a Battier over JMax in a heart beat. Battier is known for his defensive prowess, his constant diving after lose balls, and his other world hustle. JMax has some nasty put backs. Nonetheless, you Piston fans beat the rest of the basketball fan world.

    September 2, 2008 » 10:06 AM »

  • In other news, Chauncey Billups is losing to Baron Davis at NBA Gauntlet. Ron Artest and Caron Butler are in a close match up.

    September 2, 2008 » 10:29 AM »

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    September 2, 2008 » 11:22 AM »

  • chad

    bobcats fan.. voted maxiell

    September 2, 2008 » 11:29 AM »

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    September 2, 2008 » 11:51 AM »

  • Babyeater

    If by “everyone knows” you mean “no one believes,” then yes “everyone knows” Shane Battier is better than Maxiell

    September 2, 2008 » 1:05 PM »

  • Resorting to name calling will do nothing for your fight Grunge Dave.

    September 2, 2008 » 1:41 PM »

  • Ben

    Each player had a paragraph written about them in the beginning of this tournament and most of the paragraph authors were fan bloggers of the players team. It was expected in my mind that the bloggers supporting their player would promote the tournament and specifically their player in their blog. That is what has happened and I really don’t see how that can be unfair. Just like Maxiell, Battier has a blog on his side. So I really don’t see what the issue is here.

    September 2, 2008 » 2:17 PM »

  • Big Mike

    It looks like Shane is delivering a baby, which Maxiell will undoubtedly eat.

    September 2, 2008 » 2:40 PM »

  • Karl Malone

    Wait, grungedave is telling someone to get a life? Weird…

    September 2, 2008 » 2:48 PM »

  • name calling?

    if Maxiell played for anyone but the Pistons he would not be in the final two. I think you can admit to that. Battier would be a contestant even if he played for the Miami Heat.

    September 2, 2008 » 2:50 PM »

  • Pistons Lover

    Jason Maxiell is da man…can’t no one on this mess with him!!! and all the haters out there, i can’t wait til he dunks on all of your favorite teams…and he will dunk on all 5 players out there!!!

    September 2, 2008 » 4:02 PM »

  • Rob G

    Grungedave is battier… I mean bitter… about his boy gettin’ trounced by Max. Don’t worry, friend, you’re not alone. Max has been a nightmare for a lot of other teams over the past few years, and that’s not gonna stop!

    September 2, 2008 » 4:27 PM »

  • Rox fans need to spread the word.

    September 2, 2008 » 5:32 PM »

  • Urine Sample

    Blooooow ooooooout. Go PISTONS!!!

    September 2, 2008 » 5:40 PM »

  • Rocket

    Detroit fans don’t realize that their attempts at padding the votes is futile…once the Chinese fans get word of this, it will be Battier (500,000) to Max (2,500)…voting over!

    September 2, 2008 » 5:42 PM »

  • sac

    yeah. at the end of the day shane is a better defender. max can guard kobe…

    September 2, 2008 » 5:56 PM »

  • javier

    whats the point of having a poll if a huge single group is going to propel their guy to win it..it proves nothing and no real opinion other than the fact that Pistons forums spam people to vote

    September 2, 2008 » 6:14 PM »

  • Hey, I recognize Maxiell is going to win this thing
    (it’s why I tried a tactic of voting against him for the past 2-3 weeks!)…

    I nevertheless maintain that Battier is the true Floor Burn champ!

    Go Rockets!

    September 2, 2008 » 6:32 PM »

  • Hayesfan

    GRUNGEDAVE!!! Don’t give in to them, I thought better of you.
    Giving up so easily.

    We have the power of millions of Chinese on our side. We just have to get them involved.

    Battier is the poster boy for this contest. If he doesn’t win it’s because Pistons fans found a way to cheat.

    Maybe we can tag something on to the end of that Peak commercial they keep playing over and over again on Chinese Television…

    I bet Hoops Addict would love to get those hits!! ;)

    September 2, 2008 » 6:41 PM »

  • Richie

    “grungedave said:
    Hey, I recognize Maxiell is going to win this thing
    (it’s why I tried a tactic of voting against him for the past 2-3 weeks!)…

    I nevertheless maintain that Battier is the true Floor Burn champ!”

    Yeeeeeah, that’s not dillusional.
    Battier and Maxiell are different kinds of player. Battier is a better on ball defender, but Maxiell is a better help side defender. You could go back and forth between who’s better at what, but the issue here is who fans think is the better hustle player.

    I’m happy for Maxiell, but Rodman would crush any of these candidates.

    September 2, 2008 » 8:37 PM »

  • Rocketfan

    Shane is a better all around defender in terms of hustle, drawing charges, being glued to the guy.

    Shane will win eventually, he deserves it.

    September 2, 2008 » 9:50 PM »

  • Rockets

    The Pistons fans know they are screwed right. Once the Houston fans come in and the Chinese fans come in. Prediction Max-1285,Battier-3672

    September 2, 2008 » 10:05 PM »

  • Nick

    I didn’t realize you can get floor burns from dunks and blocks. I thought floor burns were from diving on the floor to make hustle plays. If this were truly a “Floor Burn Tournament” and not a popularity contest, Battier would have already won. Don’t get me wrong, Maxiell is great at what he does, but when it comes to chasing loose balls, making hustle plays, and being a team’s glue guy, Battier is the man.

    September 2, 2008 » 10:08 PM »

  • Dash

    WOW Battier is clearly more deserving. The best perimeter defender in the league and gives it 110%

    September 2, 2008 » 10:22 PM »

  • dandabackdoorman

    forget all yall haters battier is gonna win it hands down , and if u got a problem with it holla at me

    September 2, 2008 » 10:36 PM »

  • Marcelo

    I promise that shane will have a historic come from behind win!

    September 2, 2008 » 10:39 PM »

  • Clutch Boy

    “Never underestimate the heart of a champion” – Rudy T.

    Battier is going to win this.

    September 2, 2008 » 10:42 PM »

  • Alvin

    battier is on his bat mobile. His coming right up. :)

    September 2, 2008 » 10:47 PM »

  • stunna

    Battier is wayyyy better than Max….the only reason max his the lead (temporarily) is cuz he is on more highlight reel dunks on ESPN…so basically its a popularity contest. But F that, Battier is going to win this easilyy…no doubt…im goin to sleep ez tonight

    September 2, 2008 » 11:13 PM »

  • RoxRocks

    Hey Pistons’ fans, it is downright embarrassing Shane is getting so many votes at a Pistons’ site.
    By the way, Shane >>> JM and they shouldn’t be mentioned in the same sentence.
    Op better closes the vote early before Sat to declare Max a winner; otherwise this blog would be invaded by the Rockets and the China’s red army. How do you feel for a final vote of 2,000(JM) to 10,000,000,000(SB)?
    - A rocket man voted for Shane 20 times in 5 minutes

    September 2, 2008 » 11:33 PM »

  • Eug

    Battier prob is the best candidate for this tournament…but Maxciell is just plain SICK.

    September 2, 2008 » 11:44 PM »

  • Matt

    Lol why don’t you cry more about it all. Apparently you don’t watch J-Max. And as for the thing about J-Max being on the Pistons and getting a lot of votes. . . All I here is how people hate the Detroit Pistons and that only people in Detroit like them. So where do you get your information?

    September 3, 2008 » 12:26 AM »

  • sachin

    lets just talk one on one defense…

    wow. jason maxiell is a joke. battier guards the best defenders in the game EVERY NIGHT. lebron, kobe, carmello, brandon roy, manu, pierce……should i go on?

    who does jason maxiell guard? ben wallace? channing frye? loren woods? jake voskul? jake tsakalidas? vitali potepenko?

    September 3, 2008 » 1:21 AM »

  • RW36

    never underestimate the heart of a champion?
    hm. that came out randomly, both of these guys never won any championships yet. like them both, but i gotta go with maxiell though. battier came from detroit anyways…

    September 3, 2008 » 1:55 AM »

  • Joe Dumars

    Battier will win his 1st championship ring with rockets this year!!! Yao/scola/artest/tmac/alston/battier/barry/landry/francis and Deke!!!!

    September 3, 2008 » 2:33 AM »

  • Big shel

    LOL. Pistons fans want J-max to win, but even if Shane wins Detroit fans still win out. You do realize that Shane is from the D right? I digress, J-Max wins it.

    September 3, 2008 » 4:40 AM »

  • Wil

    Go! Shane Go!

    Rockets for life baby.

    September 3, 2008 » 4:41 AM »

  • Lol

    Lol Houston Fans are very Big Cheaters!!!

    September 3, 2008 » 5:22 AM »

  • lol

    yo matt u can tell their cheat if u look at the poll!!! its so clear!
    And by the way i am a Piston fan since 94′

    September 3, 2008 » 5:27 AM »

  • unoune

    Battier will be the No.1 with out doubt! Maxiell still has a long way to go.

    September 3, 2008 » 5:33 AM »

  • AD

    Dun nun nun BATMAN

    POW

    BOOM

    Kapac

    Batman

    September 3, 2008 » 5:38 AM »

  • battier is better,i think

    September 3, 2008 » 5:42 AM »

  • Chinese

    Shane Battier

    September 3, 2008 » 5:49 AM »

  • Mac

    well detroit fans seem to be wetting their pants now :D
    throw in the towel?

    September 3, 2008 » 6:06 AM »

  • Great chinese fans will help battier ,who is Jason Maxiell ,the loser???

    September 3, 2008 » 6:10 AM »

  • Mike

    LOL at all of you Piston fan’s premature comments about how Maxiel has this put away and Shane should bow out. You get a jump start and then talk mess. By the time this is over the results will be embarassing for Maxiel. Next time why don’t you wait until the tournament is over before you speak.

    September 3, 2008 » 6:41 AM »

  • Eyhab

    Shane with the come from behind lead…

    September 3, 2008 » 7:08 AM »

  • Greatwallfan

    The truth is shining now……………and it looks like BATTIER!

    September 3, 2008 » 7:34 AM »

  • Wow

    Rockets have the most fans probably on the internet. Don’t ever try to play with them in a voting game lol.

    This was not a competition from the start. Battier is clearly 10 times better than Maxiell.

    September 3, 2008 » 7:50 AM »

  • kaibuliaokou

    I’m a Rocket’s fans,i think that Shane will win at last“`
    Because so much pepole from china will vote him“

    September 3, 2008 » 8:05 AM »

  • qyq187

    Who is Jason Maxiell ? I don’t know this guy.
    Shane is the best!

    September 3, 2008 » 8:07 AM »

  • AD

    it was nice knowing ya Jason Maxiell, but now you must eat Batman’s dust. Deuce out the Roof!!

    September 3, 2008 » 8:26 AM »

  • Hayesfan

    Shane won an NCAA championship… so he has won a championship, believe me I remember it vividly because we, meaning UK, lost before we could get to them.

    Max probably won one along the way somewhere, but I am quite certain he hasn’t won at the same level. ;)

    It’s going to be an interesting voting week!

    May the best man, aka Shane, win.

    September 3, 2008 » 8:50 AM »

  • Finsta

    Don’t diss on Vitaly Potapenko, he owned Serge Zwikker!!!!

    September 3, 2008 » 8:56 AM »

  • RedRocket

    See what happens when you talk smack detroit? You DO. NOT. UNDERESTIMATE. THE. HEART. OF. A. CHAMPION. You talked all that smack and woke up a beast. And about the cheating, we’re the fourth largest city in America, you had to know this was coming.

    September 3, 2008 » 10:09 AM »

  • Jack

    Why can you not vote twice???
    Even if you try on seperate days you cant vote again!

    September 3, 2008 » 10:39 AM »

  • Steve

    Battier is from detroit, how do u like our garbage?

    September 3, 2008 » 11:42 AM »

  • H-town rocketiers

    Ha Ha my boy battier racked in over a thousand votes to Maxiell’s 150 in the span of a day its about to be a whuppin on you pistons fans.

    September 3, 2008 » 12:12 PM »

  • 313

    I dont care about this stupid voting! everybody knows that Maxiell will eat Battier on the court and like steve said “enjoy another first round loss” Houston!!!

    September 3, 2008 » 12:20 PM »

  • Wow…. I did NOT see this coming. Battier in the lead!!

    Go Rockets!

    September 3, 2008 » 12:30 PM »

  • BrooksBall

    Well it’s 1,841 to 1,214 for Battier now. Does Maxiell want to throw in the towel yet?

    September 3, 2008 » 12:36 PM »

  • Gunit

    Ha, you Piston guys are getting OWNED. Where you guys at now?

    September 3, 2008 » 12:41 PM »

  • Hayesfan

    LOL @ GrungeDave

    I told you, you gave up too easily!

    September 3, 2008 » 12:42 PM »

  • NiceGuy

    I made a post earlier that included a cuss word (although I used *’s to disguise some of the letters) and it didn’t make it past the moderators. Then I posted the same thing but without the cuss word, and it didn’t get passed the moderators.

    Yet that post right below Hayesfan is, apparently, perfectly fine…

    Huh? Are these mods Pistons fans or something?

    September 3, 2008 » 12:45 PM »

  • NiceGuy

    Nice irrelevant arguments, Matt. It’s a FLOOR BURN Tournament, in case you hadn’t noticed. It’s about hustle and sacrificing your body, not about put back dunks and denials. Oh, and I’m pretty sure that getting out of the first round has nothing to do with it, especially when neither Battier nor Maxiell is a star of their team. Swap them and suddenly Battier is perennially in the conference finals and Maxiell is one and done. It really has nothing to do with them as individuals.

    September 3, 2008 » 1:16 PM »

  • RedRocket

    Wow, why so angry Matt? Is it cause you guys got beat by Lebron James and the scrub squad? Is it cause you keep bringing back the same old team year after year (and this year again) and realize your time has passed? You keep runnin your mouth and we’ll unleash Artest on your fans again. By the way Wackxiel is down 20%. Eat it.

    September 3, 2008 » 1:28 PM »

  • BrooksBall

    Maxiell has only been in the league for 3 seasons and barely played the first two (especially year one where he averaged a mere 6 mpg). Battier has been doing his thing for 7 seasons while getting significant minutes from day one. It’s not that Maxiell isn’t a tough player, it’s just that he doesn’t have enough tenure to be in the finals with a veteran floor burner like Shane Battier.

    What is the definition of “floor burn” anyway? Most of the arguments that tout Maxiell refer to dunks and blocks. If we are talking about dunking and blocking shots, neither of these guys would be in the final. You would see LeBron James vs. Marcus Camby in that case.

    When it comes to taking charges, hitting the floor for loose balls and doing all the other dirty work, it’s hard to see how Maxiell’s name can even be mentioned in the same breath as Battier’s. I can see how Maxiell’s amazing blocks and thunderous dunks would make highlight reels. I just can’t see how they qualify him as a floor burner.

    September 3, 2008 » 1:29 PM »

  • Steve

    Tayshaun owns battier

    September 3, 2008 » 1:30 PM »

  • Justin

    Come on now we all know “both teams played hard” errrr…..”both players play hard”. Battier will probably never will the MVP and neither will Maxiell. But every championship team needs a player in the mold of a Battier or Maxiell. Someone to pick up the garbage. Battier just flat out gets the job done while Maxiell has bad intentions everytime he has the ball. Personally I love the fire that Maxiell plays with. The intensity that he has when he grabs a rebound, only to obliterate the basket by slamming the ball through it, is just fun to watch. So in the end who would you rather see on your team…a consistent “floor burner”, or someone who consistently eats babies and takes names?

    Vote Mad Max for floor burner president ’08.

    September 3, 2008 » 2:07 PM »

  • Hayesfan

    Ooooh that would have been a hard choice. Tayshaun or Battier.

    Glad I didn’t have to make it.

    September 3, 2008 » 2:19 PM »

  • steve davis

    you cant deny that maxiell is a good defender he put some good D on Dwight Howard in the playoffs and he blocks a lot of shots he’s 6’6 Battier dosen’t have nearly the defensive post presence but he is better at guarding the guards. He sure as hell never dunks like maxiell though

    September 3, 2008 » 3:30 PM »

  • NiceGuy

    Why aren’t any of my posts being cleared for posting?

    September 3, 2008 » 3:33 PM »

  • Ericson

    There’s no cheating. You boys just witnessed the power of clutchfans.net.

    September 3, 2008 » 3:56 PM »

  • Maxxx

    Looks like the sun has risen in China and turned things…
    They brought him to the finals and will make him win no matter what. You can’t compete against one third of the Earth’s population. There are two on every square inch.
    Why are all these votes decided upon sympathy?

    September 3, 2008 » 4:03 PM »

  • Bonior

    Maybe it really is cheating to call in the Chinese fans of the Rockets! lol

    September 3, 2008 » 4:50 PM »

  • [...] Vote for Jason Maxiell [...]

    September 3, 2008 » 5:54 PM »

  • Azzkicker

    “Why are all these votes decided upon sympathy”?

    Translated, this means: “Why isn’t MY guy winning?”

    Hate to burst your bubble, but polls work based on the number of votes received. So it’s actually pretty simple…

    MORE people think Battier is better.

    September 3, 2008 » 6:03 PM »

  • [...] Vote for Jason Maxiell [...]

    September 3, 2008 » 6:17 PM »

  • Zack

    lol, Battier a better player then Maxiell?

    Max is a beast, he’s one of the best shot blockers in the league, his offense is growing every day, and he is a much better player over-all.

    Better offensively, better interior defender.. and over all a talented NBA player.

    If Battier didn’t give 110% every game, he wouldn’t be in the league. He has no talent.

    September 3, 2008 » 6:36 PM »

  • Ben

    The following are quotes taken directly from the Rockets fansite, clutchfans.net

    “I think I’ve voted like fifteen times so far.”-PiggyTails
    1 hour 6 minutes later… “Yeah, I’m still voting. I’ve lost count of how many times though.”

    “The site I got my stuff from is http://www.torproject.org“-PiggyTails

    “Voted 10 times using a proxy”-SuperBeeKay

    “I’ve voted 20-30 times in a row and still going.”-BrooksBall

    “Got Shane about 15 more votes.”-Shroopy2

    September 3, 2008 » 8:21 PM »

  • 313

    was it grungedave who said “Piston fans need to get a life” what a joke!

    September 3, 2008 » 8:36 PM »

  • GMchecker

    Chuck Hayes should be ranked higher than Jason Maxiell. Maxiell is a pretty good player and a Pistons fan favorite, but I would bet that most NBA coaches would rank Chuck Hayes over Maxiell. Battier is leaps and bounds higher than any of the others… including Senor Dirty himself (Bruce Bowen, SAS — which makes me wonder what a fight between Harpring and Bowen would be like….?).

    September 3, 2008 » 9:05 PM »

  • Ikorose

    Looks like we got some sour Pistons fans over here. I would love to see your Pistons in the finals. We’ll bring Ron Artest back to the Palace. The next time he’ll be on the scorer’s table is with the Larry O’Brien trophy in hand.

    September 3, 2008 » 9:31 PM »

  • owned

    wow. im not a fan of either team, but PISTON FANS GOT OWWWWWWWNED!!!!

    September 3, 2008 » 9:46 PM »

  • Bonior

    Battier is really cleaning up now: 2296 – 1498.

    Maybe it’s truly cheating to call in the Rockets’ Chinese fans! lol

    September 3, 2008 » 10:18 PM »

  • Convictedstupid

    You caught us.

    There is about 100 of our votes down the drain…….

    but for the benefit of the doubt, ill even go up to 200 votes being illegal.

    not like it matters bud.

    September 3, 2008 » 10:31 PM »

  • Mikeal

    thanks ben for posting that information, i was just reading it myself, and i think that since you posted they’re gonna go edit it, hoopsaddict should really look into this matter, and take some type of action.

    September 3, 2008 » 10:51 PM »

  • And it’s Battier by a nose…err…one thousand votes…

    September 3, 2008 » 11:02 PM »

  • BrooksBall

    Ben,

    First of all, that proxy thing doesn’t actually work. It seemed like it did, initially, but it actually just hangs on the “Loading” page forever after you click ‘Vote’. I ended up having a bunch of browsers open that weren’t actually doing anything. If you don’t believe me, go ahead and try yourself. Those internet resources are available to Rockets and Pistons fans, alike.

    Secondly, where does it say you can’t use a proxy? If you can vote from multiple computers in your house, which is essentially voting from multiple IP addresses, what would be the difference? Nobody would be breaking any rules.

    And, again, it doesn’t work in the first place.

    The truth is you, and Maxiell, are simply losing to the combination of Rockets/Battier supporters from ClutchFans and many others across the globe.

    By the way, here is a quote taken directly from PistonsForum.com:

    “Right, man. I have 2 PCs for internet and I voted from both…So everyone can vote practically unlimited times, only different IPs are needed.” -raxrets

    Since nobody has unlimited computers, we all know what raxrets is implying with that statement.

    Regardless, good luck to Pistons fans and their 3rd year player who barely saw any floor to burn his first two seasons.

    September 3, 2008 » 11:32 PM »

  • jam

    whatever it takes to win i suppose..

    September 3, 2008 » 11:38 PM »

  • BrooksBall

    Ben,

    If there is a way to cheat, as you think you have proven, why aren’t there thousands of more votes? Oh, I know… because you can’t. Go ahead and try.

    If one person could vote endlessly from one computer, don’t you think the vote count for both finalists would be much higher after a few days? Obviously, you can’t and you are looking for excuses to use when Maxiell ultimately loses to the true Floor Burn champion.

    September 3, 2008 » 11:41 PM »

  • baller1

    at least detroit can get past the 1st round..

    September 3, 2008 » 11:41 PM »

  • Glenn

    Don’t mess with the Chinese eh?

    As far as heart of a champion… yeah the Rockets won in the previous millenium a couple times, but Battier was in high school, so that really doesn’t count.

    And I’m sure you’d love to see us in the finals. Because that would mean that you finally won a playoff series. Hustle all you want Rockets, on the floor, down the tunnel, and right to your couches to watch the rest of the playoffs.

    I will give you props for winning though. You had more fans turn out. I’m sure that the next time our teams play the announcers will be all over it, what a great moral victory it was, and how it’ll keep you warm at home during the second round…

    September 4, 2008 » 12:06 AM »

  • Dean

    Hahaha. What comeback by Shane.

    September 4, 2008 » 12:48 AM »

  • Ben

    You are right Brooksball, who are we to kid about Battier not deserving of Floor Burn Champion. He is Mr. Intangible good luck to yall and hopefull we can at least gain some chinese fans for our club.

    September 4, 2008 » 1:22 AM »

  • Maxxx

    Azzkicker,

    “Translated, this means: “Why isn’t MY guy winning?””
    No. Battier might even have the edge in a fair contest and that’s fine with me. I have my opinion like everybody and respect others’. But this misterious turnaround is just ridiculous. Just by playing for a specific team (i.e. having a specific teammate) should not decide. I bet there are a bunch of people who know nothing about the other player.

    “Hate to burst your bubble, but polls work based on the number of votes received. So it’s actually pretty simple…”
    Correct. Not based on the number of people voting. I could also start to vote 1000 times but that would spoil the whole thing and after all, it would change nothing. Both Jason and Shane will be the same afterwards and favourites of their fans.

    “MORE people think Battier is better.”
    Might also be true, but how come it wasn’t so in the beginning?

    It’s a game, not a war. Nobody will have bigger thingies if their man wins.

    September 4, 2008 » 2:53 AM »

  • Bee

    Lol @ Pistons fans going from gloating to being huge cry babies.

    September 4, 2008 » 4:27 AM »

  • ABN

    You right Maxxx!
    i think there have to start the new season! i mean look what a stupid meaningless vote makes to you guys! ITS NOT THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP its Floor Burn Tournament KIDS!!!

    September 4, 2008 » 4:48 AM »

  • Battier's Brother

    Battier ,come on!!!

    September 4, 2008 » 5:11 AM »

  • AD

    Maxxx said:
    “MORE people think Battier is better.”
    “Might also be true, but how come it wasn’t so in the beginning?”

    Um, maybe because alot of people didn’t know about it? Ever thought about that?

    September 4, 2008 » 6:41 AM »

  • Greatwallfan

    Maxxx, you had a long long excuse there buddy.

    You say how did we have such a comeback? My question is how did you have such a huge lead.

    Your a moron also if it didn’t occur to you because of your time zone in Detroit that you guys got to it before us. We were still sleeping when your votes started tallying up.

    But when Tx woke up so did this poll.

    GG

    September 4, 2008 » 8:06 AM »

  • 313

    Lol at Rocket fans going from First Round Loosers to Floor Burn Tournament Winners and make it look like their really going to get something for it!

    September 4, 2008 » 8:35 AM »

  • Hayesfan

    Oh come on yall! Can’t we all just get along.

    Let’s talk about how we both defeated our true nemesis in the Lakers and Boston and hope that we meet one another in the finals (my dream for June of 09! Rockets vs Pistons ftw!)

    Battier made a huge comeback because until we posted it on all the Rockets forums no one knew the vote was now.

    I am sure there are people who have voted multiple times for Max too.

    The Pistons are my second fave team and in fact I have a friend who owns season tickets, so I can definitely appreciate Max. But, Shane is the definition of this tournament. Even all Rockets fans don’t appreciate him and what he brings to the game like they should.

    Every single trade scenario over the summer before we traded for Artest included someone trying to give away Shane or my boy Chuck.

    It’s also entirely possible that as the different blogs around picked up the finals voting that other basketball fans are voting for Battier as well.

    Let’s not let this comment section turn into a flame fest eh? It’s been a lot of fun following this tournament.

    September 4, 2008 » 9:01 AM »

  • ABN

    Yup is Time to let the season begin and beat LA an Boston better known as David Stern’s Wives!

    September 4, 2008 » 9:33 AM »

  • Shaunjon

    baller1 said:
    at least detroit can get past the 1st round..

    lets see the poor pisstons lose their best athlete and see if they even make it to the first round, better yet win what, ten or twelve games in a row after he goes out. detroits gettin older and doing nothing about it, rockets have 3 legitimiate superstars and plenty of young guys to build the team with. But anyways, 2009 will be a whole new season, new start, so lets watch the pistons digress into mediocrityand the rockets do the opposite.

    September 4, 2008 » 10:10 AM »

  • NiceGuy

    Is it really that hard to figure out why there was huge turnaround in votes? I’ll explain it real quick using a timeline of events.

    1st – Voting starts
    2nd – Pistons fans find out about it
    3rd – Pistons fans see that they have a huge lead and start gloating
    4th – Rockets fan sees that poll actually exists and how badly Battier is getting outvoted and dissesd
    5th – Rockets fan posts a link to the poll on the biggest Rockets fan site on the internet
    6th – Game over

    September 4, 2008 » 10:25 AM »

  • johntx281

    wow remember when jason had the lead 118-7 and then the rockets fans found out about this website and started creeping up on him? that was fun.
    lets go shane! i commend all the rockets fans. do work!i love the rockets

    September 4, 2008 » 11:04 AM »

  • engr chris

    ^Right on the money! Clutchfans represent!

    September 4, 2008 » 12:24 PM »

  • RoxFan

    I wonder if you piston fans really understand what your saying?
    If you look at the polls for the other rounds , such as round 3, we have 4000 people voting in the Maxiel poll but only 2000 people voting in the battier poll. This poll has only 200 more votes, and you guys are claiming they are coming from CHINA? We can put that to this being the FINALS of the tourney
    People in china really have time to learn english, navitage to this page and vote for a teammate of thier favourite player?
    I voted in other rounds before, but not everyone has the time to wait for the poll to open up, i got my updates on this from thedreamshake (props!) and they posted on it when shane was down, and others say cluchfans had it too. Maybe thats why there was this come from behind?
    Either way, battier should win this, cause he loves that floor, and this comp was made for shane!

    September 4, 2008 » 12:26 PM »

  • Marcelo

    game over

    September 4, 2008 » 12:49 PM »

  • Yeah, total thanks to ClutchFans. My appeal for the “sympathy vote” seems to have helped! Go Battier!

    September 4, 2008 » 12:59 PM »

  • aznhowie20

    its just cuz Detroit is on Eastern time zone… thats why Houston was an hr late to the party!

    September 4, 2008 » 4:56 PM »

  • Nick

    I think it is funny how defensive Rocket fans are getting when us Piston fans make fun of you for not getting out of the first round. Maybe it is because you know you have a really good team, you are just stuck in the middle of a bloated Western Confrence. I gotta give it up to the Rockets for hanging in there, with the losses of their 2 stars every year. However, to try and comeback at us and say that our Pistons “suck”, “they arent that good”… is ridiculous. The Pistons have won a championship, WITHOUT superstars…. we have gotten to the Finals twice… WITHOUT Superstars… and have gotten to the Eastern Confrence Finals in 6 consecutive years…. WITHOUT superstars. Name another team… besides the San Antonio Scrubs… that have had that kind of success? Need I remind you that the Pistons will be in the thick of the things again this year. Rockets havent even gotten out of the first round, and with the addition of Ron Artest, they should get at LEAST to the Conference Finals. ( it would be a disappointment if they dont ) It would be awesome to see a Pistons vs. Rockets in the finals… Would love to see T-Mac and Rip go at it. Would love to see Rasheed/McDyess/Kwame battle Yao and see ifw Tayshaun can contain Ron Artest. It would be a Finals to remember. However, how is the rockets going to contain Chauncey? Anyway, its cool to see the support the Rocket fans are giving Shaine. He is a Michigan guy ANYWAY! (he went to Detroit Country Day) Either way, its a win/win situation for me. Plus both of these guys work their butt’s off for their teams to win. HOWEVER, Jason Maxiell is still a little unknown. Lets have this poll in 2-3 more years and THAN judge who is more a “Floor Burn Champion”!

    Representing Team Need4Sheed by the way… Peace and Love everyone. GO PISTONS!

    Nick~~ AKA NickDyess

    September 4, 2008 » 6:35 PM »

  • SR

    I remember when Chuck Hayes got knocked out. He had like a 300 vote lead then his opponent(Turiaf) made this huge comeback.

    Battier is the better hustle player. This is about hustle. He was 3rd in DPOY, he is easily the best perimeter defender in the league. The only thing else he brings is a decent three point shot (but nothing spectacular). But as I said its about hustle, its what gets Shane through.

    September 4, 2008 » 7:49 PM »

  • Maxxx

    Greatwallfan said:

    “Your a moron also if it didn’t occur to you because of your time zone in Detroit that you guys got to it before us. We were still sleeping when your votes started tallying up.”

    We guys are living in the CET+1 timezone.
    Maybe I shouldn’t have posted anything in the first place, but just one more thing: I might have misread, but I thought this was between two players, not two teams or two cities. Luckily those two cities are far apart, so no blood will be spilled because of this poll. You take this too seriously. Nobody will remember the result when the real action begins.

    But hey, congratulations for SB.

    September 4, 2008 » 8:10 PM »

  • Ben

    Wow, props to whoever it was who decided to post using my name and make it look as if I was giving in. And I can assure all of you that cheating IS possible. Anyone with a basic understanding of how online voting works can see how simple cheating would be. Hardly anything on the internet is secure, especially an online poll.

    September 4, 2008 » 8:32 PM »

  • BrooksBall

    Ben, you sound like an expert in online cheating.

    September 4, 2008 » 9:21 PM »

  • Texas Pride

    Texas has 5 of the top 20 cities in America. There are more top 100 cities here than any other state. That includes states with bigger size and larger population. It has the highest commercial growth and ave median income is the highest versus cost of living. Sugarland down in Houston is in the top 60. Michigan has a couple good cities, namely Ann Arbor. I am living there now for law school and it is pretty nice. Been to Detroit too. I realize now why it didn’t crack the top 100, nor did any city located around it’s jurisdiction… they didn’t rank the ghettos.

    September 4, 2008 » 9:38 PM »

  • Glenn

    Thanks for the geography lesson. Having the top cities must be why you vote so much.

    September 5, 2008 » 8:45 AM »

  • Ryan

    Did someone really just mention Kwame Brown battling Yao?

    The only thing Kwame Brown battles is the bench.

    September 5, 2008 » 11:05 AM »

  • canlah

    When I read this attempted slight at Battier…

    “If Battier didn’t give 110% every game, he wouldn’t be in the league. He has no talent.”

    I thought…yeah, that’s pretty much the definition of a Floor Burns champion. Thank you.

    P.S. This is an individual deal, but lets keep it real – if the Rockets had the benefit of being in the Leastern Conference (minus Boston), this first round smack talk wouldn’t exist.

    September 5, 2008 » 1:50 PM »

  • yop

    unfair stuff, max shud’ve taken it

    September 5, 2008 » 9:07 PM »

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  • pistons=best

    The Pistons are the best!!

    September 6, 2008 » 3:17 AM »

  • rob

    ok all that really matters is whos team is better! lemme see hmmm tmac has never gotten out of the first round for cryin out loud! so therefore the rockets havent gone out in a while…and the pistons lets see…6 straight conference finals appearences = amazing!
    PISTONS ARE THE BEST! END OF STORY

    September 6, 2008 » 9:36 AM »

  • BrooksBall

    The latest from PistonsForum.com:

    “yah sorry a script isn’t going to work when it requires different IPs” -Warthog

    “Sure it will. You just need to scrape and verify a bunch of proxies, then rotate through them.” -roscoe36

    “yah i meant it won’t work because i don’t want to devote that kind of time to finding all the proxies” -Warthog

    “There are programs that will do it for you.” -CloudWalker

    I guess desperate times do call for desperate measures.

    September 6, 2008 » 6:28 PM »

  • sook

    I love the pistons, great team, trust me, the rockets have nothing against you guys.

    You are the most consistent team in the NBA IMHO

    September 7, 2008 » 12:31 AM »

  • Matt

    Thank you for acknowledging us. You guys have a good team too, it’s hard when your superstars get injured. Hopefully Artest can help you guys out. T-Mac deserves to get past the first round more than anybody.

    September 7, 2008 » 2:19 PM »

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    September 10, 2008 » 7:25 AM »

  • Pistons Lover

    oh whatever h town…eventho i like the rockets yall blew a 22 win streak by losing in the first round. before u talk junk please get out to the first round. shane been in the nba longer than max and max has more success in the playoffs lol

    September 13, 2008 » 6:26 PM »

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